Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings:Briere, Arnott, Scurko

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Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings:Briere, Arnott, Scurko
- bmeltzer

If he was willing to sign a one year deal, I wouldn't be against Arnott. Given how the market has been this summer, I'm not stunned he's still out there. I wonder about two things: Cost and willingness to accept a 4th line role if that's how things shake out.

In terms of veteran presence, he'd be a great add, and having a big body down the middle who can win draws would be a nice asset to add.

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings:Briere, Arnott, Scurko
- bmeltzer

Good stuff as usual Bill. Arnott is an interesting option. Wouldn't mind having a top notch face off guy in the lineup.

Do you think he would accept a fourth line role at this point in his career if we can't guarantee him a spot on the 3rd line?

Good stuff as usual Bill. Arnott is an interesting option. Wouldn't mind having a top notch face off guy in the lineup.

Do you think he would accept a fourth line role at this point in his career if we can't guarantee him a spot on the 3rd line?
- BringBack25

Don't know. It's worth gauging interest, though.

If he was willing to sign a one year deal, I wouldn't be against Arnott. Given how the market has been this summer, I'm not stunned he's still out there. I wonder about two things: Cost and willingness to accept a 4th line role if that's how things shake out.

In terms of veteran presence, he'd be a great add, and having a big body down the middle who can win draws would be a nice asset to add.
- Jsaquella

My only beef is that he didn't play any time on the PK last year. He did play 2:00+ on the PP last year.
would he take a role reversal there? CAN he play a reversed role?

EDIT: Arnott has NEVER been a PK guy. I wouldn't want a guy playing third line that can't play the PK in some capacity.

Don't know. It's worth gauging interest, though.
- bmeltzer

Would you have big concerns about the defense of a Hartnell, Giroux, Briere line?

Would you have big concerns about the defense of a Hartnell, Giroux, Briere line?
- Jsaquella

If they scored 110+ goals as a combined line, i would be able to overlook the shortcomings at the other end. wouldn't you?

My only beef is that he didn't play any time on the PK last year. He did play 2:00+ on the PP last year.
would he take a role reversal there? CAN he play a reversed role?
- nails

He actually spent more time on the PK last year than he has in the last three or four years. I had thought he was a regular PK guy, but he hasn't been in recent history

If they scored 110+ goals as a combined line, i would be able to overlook the shortcomings at the other end. wouldn't you?
- nails

Not if they were out for 120 against

He actually spent more time on the PK last year than he has in the last three or four years. I had thought he was a regular PK guy, but he hasn't been in recent history
- Jsaquella

yeah, 44 seconds for the year.

Would you have big concerns about the defense of a Hartnell, Giroux, Briere line?
- Jsaquella

A bit, but no more so than the line with Jagr on it.

Would you have big concerns about the defense of a Hartnell, Giroux, Briere line?
- Jsaquella

That line would scare me defensively. Are the Flyers expecting to move Briere to wing this season? I thought he was going to be at center where he's much better.

Not if they were out for 120 against
- Jsaquella

but the other lines would compensate for that.
and, unless the other team puts their most O minded forwards out there, the opposition won't score that many against.
It's one of those high risk high reward things.
How many goals against was the OV line out for a couple years ago?

A bit, but no more so than the line with Jagr on it.
- bmeltzer

True, but Jagr had some moments where he'd astound with his back checking.

I've seen some that prefer Schenn as a winger, and given his willingness to bang and get into the corners, I can understand it. I think he'd be intriguing as the RW on that line.

My only beef is that he didn't play any time on the PK last year. He did play 2:00+ on the PP last year.
would he take a role reversal there? CAN he play a reversed role?

EDIT: Arnott has NEVER been a PK guy. I wouldn't want a guy playing third line that can't play the PK in some capacity.
- nails

I think the PK personnel would be the same guys -- Couturier, Talbot, Read, etc. Where Arnott would help defensively is at even strength. He can also still put up enough points offensive to relieve a little pressure from Schenn and Couturier (or least offset any offensive downturn from Talbot's career year).

I think the PK personnel would be the same guys -- Couturier, Talbot, Read, etc. Where Arnott would help defensively is at even strength. He can also still put up enough points offensive to relieve a little pressure from Schenn and Couturier (or least offset any offensive downturn from Talbot's career year).
- bmeltzer

What's your price on Arnott? One year at?

A bit, but no more so than the line with Jagr on it.
- bmeltzer

thanks Bill on picking up on Arnott being out there...it's worth a look see. He knows the eastern conference a little bit from playing in Jersey.

I think the PK personnel would be the same guys -- Couturier, Talbot, Read, etc. Where Arnott would help defensively is at even strength. He can also still put up enough points offensive to relieve a little pressure from Schenn and Couturier (or least offset any offensive downturn from Talbot's career year).
- bmeltzer

I also like the "old guy" presence. He's been around and knows the game. It's always good to have savvy vet around.

I think the PK personnel would be the same guys -- Couturier, Talbot, Read, etc. Where Arnott would help defensively is at even strength. He can also still put up enough points offensive to relieve a little pressure from Schenn and Couturier (or least offset any offensive downturn from Talbot's career year).
- bmeltzer

It would be hard for me to justify paying a guy much more than the minimum to be essentially one dimensional.

About 30% of his goals come on the PP.
would there really be 2:00+ per night on the PP for him?

If he would sign for 1M or less, I could stomach that.
But anything more than that for a guy who doesn't kill penalties and we don't really have quality time for on the PP isn't a direction I would go, personally.

How soon till the rumaors start about us giving Hasek a tryuot?

If they scored 110+ goals as a combined line, i would be able to overlook the shortcomings at the other end. wouldn't you?
- nails

it might be like the WPG gm w/ that combo

My only beef is that he didn't play any time on the PK last year. He did play 2:00+ on the PP last year.
would he take a role reversal there? CAN he play a reversed role?

EDIT: Arnott has NEVER been a PK guy. I wouldn't want a guy playing third line that can't play the PK in some capacity.
- nails

I don't see that as a big concern. We have lots of PK-capable guys (Giroux, Jake, Read, Talbot, Fedotenko, Couturier, and Wellwood). Not sure it's a big deal if Arnott doesn't play big PK minutes on this team. I'd take him (assuming the price is reasonable) just for the face offs, leadership, and size.

It would be hard for me to justify paying a guy much more than the minimum to be essentially one dimensional.

About 30% of his goals come on the PP.
would there really be 2:00+ per night on the PP for him?

If he would sign for 1M or less, I could stomach that.
But anything more than that for a guy who doesn't kill penalties and we don't really have quality time for on the PP isn't a direction I would go, personally.
- nails

Well, at this point, I doubt Fedotenko is going to eat up all of Jagr's PP minutes (sarcasm), so some of those minutes could conceivably be available for Arnott.

great work as always Bill. I agree, Arnott would look good in Orange and Black and if he were to get injured, we still have the players to just keep going.

Hartnell - Giroux - Voracek
Schenn - Arnott - Briere
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Fedotenko - Talbot - Wellwood

not too shabby...